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Craig Owens kicked out of Chiodos

Alternative Press - Scott Heisel on 9/24/09 @ 1:59 PM - altpress.com

Chiodos have announced that they have parted ways with their frontman, Craig Owens. His last show with the band was Aug. 23 at the Los Angeles stop of Warped Tour. The band's statement reads as follows:

"To all of our friends, family, and fans: We would like to let you know that we have let Craig Owens go as the singer of Chiodos. This decision was a necessary one. Out of respect for all of the hard work that we have put in together for all of these years we will not be discussing the specific reasons that this needed to happen. We wish Craig well . We will absolutely be continuing on as a band and we will keep you informed as this next chapter unfolds. Chiodos fans are the best fans in the world and all we can ask of you, after everything you have already given us, is to share in our excitement for this next album. We promise you will not be disappointed............Brad, Jason, Pat, and Matt"

This is the second member of Chiodos to get the boot this year; drummer Derrick Frost was served his walking papers in May.

No official comment has been issued by Owens at this time; earlier today, he tweeted, "Home for months - first time in a long time. I plan to write a song everyday, take vocal lessons & become much better at what I already do." He also recently announced plans for a solo covers EP.

Two days ago, Chiodos keyboardist Bradley Bell tweeted, "You've become inconvinient," which one can only assume relates to this decision.


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30secondstopaija
WTF.

xgavmox
i hope they change their name, chidos is craig, his voice is so unique anything else just wouldnt e the same....

jinxremoving629
NOOO!!!!! Not cool....

punksharkchick
lmfao

bganulin
xgavmox said it right. there is no possible way Chiodos can continue because "chiodos is craig". sorry guys, you have lost your spark and individuality.

WeLikeTheMoon62
Chiodos without Craig Owens? well who cares about Chiodos anymore then, right? Van Hagar!!!

vishnurajan
Wow, this sucks.

xStephaniaxRebelx
this is possibly the most upsetting thing i've heard today. it probably has something to do with the fact that he has a good 3 or 4 other side projects going on right now, but it's definitely going to be difficult to replace him

kapy53
How will this affect his side projects with Chiodos members

xExMx
I can see Chiodos following in the footsteps of From First To Last. A band at the top of their career, losing their lead singer, and disappearing into obscurity with their next release. Except in FFTL's case...Sonny left, he wasn't kicked out.

NODUB223
They WILL regret this! BIGGEST MISTAKE EVER, CRAIG IS CHIODOS, THEY WOULDNT BE SHIT WITHOUT THEM!!!

marlylopez
major fail.

lindsaybee
Craig Owens=Chiodos, solo project, Cinematic Sunrise, Isles & Glaciers. He's a busy guy. It's easier for Chiodos, as a band, to have a full-time front man then one who's there when he's not busy. Chiodos hasn't been good since All's Well That End's Well came out anyway.

Xdawnkillsdreams
i gotta agree with the guy that said "Van Hagar." That pretty much says it all. and we, as fans, are/will be disappointed so don't try to make it seem like this was for the better. And, by the way, the very fact that you won't release the information behind the departure doesn't work in the situation of a lead singer. By saying that is almost like giving a big "fuck you" to your fans.

Xdawnkillsdreams
i gotta agree with the guy that said "Van Hagar." That pretty much says it all. and we, as fans, are/will be disappointed so don't try to make it seem like this was for the better. And, by the way, the very fact that you won't release the information behind the departure doesn't work in the situation of a lead singer. By saying that is almost like giving a big "fuck you" to your fans.

anarchistinptown
"Out of respect for all of the hard work that we have put in together for all of these years we will not be discussing the specific reasons that this needed to happen." wtf does that even mean?? what im getting from that is that they know it was a stupid ass move and have no reason good enough to justify doing this to their fans. i hate to say it, but chiodos isn't chiodos without craig, so out of respect to what they have accomplished, they should change their name. thats the only way i would consider supporting this new... thing... that isn't chiodos.

LilJPenick
craigery owens is a drug addict that needs to get help. n im proud of the rest of the band doing what they did. cuz they really do way more for chiodos then craig did. but everyone always thought he was the mastermind. so here hopin owens gets help cuz he just lost alot. n should get help for all of u..his fans..if he really cares about yall.. hed get help

x3xkenzyx3x
SWEET! The day I get my brand spanking new Chiodos hoodie in the mail, they kick Craig Owens out. Craig Owens = Chiodos, so fml. I have a feeling that losing him will be a mammoth mistake.

welshy21
craig owens was chiodos.this is a huge mistake on the bands behalf and marks the end of a great band

FromLightComesTheDark
LilJPenick that's just stupid, Underoath's Spencer Chamberlin did drugs and they didn't kick him out. They had problems with it, but eventually worked it out. I mean the guys in Chiodos just sound like they are using people "you've become inconvient" If someone has a drug problem you don't ditch them. You help them.

lexxarae
Without a vocalist, they're going to have to take a break, anyway. If drugs were really the problem, they'd take a break and get him help. It's just stupid and that's why they won't tell us. The "you've become inconvient" remark...right. Like everyone's saying, Craig is Chiodos. They're acting like they've grown a pair and did something good. Ha, I'll miss this band.

asstich
This is the dumbest thing they could have done. Chiodos without craig will suck and they should realize that temselves.

metrip
WTF?!?

Divine
this just made me sad. very sad.

Chiodos1010
Seriously WTF? Not cool. Craig is such an important part of the band. He helped develop Chiodos to where it is today. It wont be the same or anywhere near it without him. I have so much respect for the band and i hope Craig remains a part of it.

LilJPenick
its not stupid. i give me 100% support to matt, pat, brad n jason for doing what they did.yall dont kno shit in what really happen.the rest of the band was the real master mind.yall just more puppets in craig control. he needs help and instead of bashin the rest of the dude. honor them cuz they took away one more money maker for craig to use on drugs. n he wont get help. its tough love kiddies.u have no clue what u even talkin about

jamessterling
That FromLight guy up there, you're right. Bandmates are supposed to be like a family. You dont ditch your family if they have an addiction to drugs thats bringing down their life. While I seriously doubt that's the case with Craig, its stupid to have left him on his own. From this point on, I will have nothing to do with Chiodos. I'm deleting their music off of my iTunes and iPod as I type this. I can safely say that all of my respect for this band has been diminished with the loss of Craig.

LilJPenick
craig is nuttin but performance face.. the weakest part of chiodos was his vocals. its called a pitch craig.. find it. you see this front man w personality and what not n think omg this is amazing. hes vocals on cd are great.. but live.. never right.. he didnt care of his voice.. im sorry you all are upset that hes gone but its for the best..n if craig really loves his fans.. he get help.they most likley gave him a choice n picked drugs or not to get help..so after tryin to help they did the what was best

Xdawnkillsdreams
LilJpenick, do you know what you're talking about? because using as much proof as everyone else posting here, and for SOME reason (*cough*) not one of them agrees with you.

LilJPenick
Ya kno the phrase "cant help those who dont want to help?" even if they need help.. well at some point can do all you can to stand by but its up to that person.. the rest of the band didnt want to watching craig die b4 hes 27..if hes not gonna listen to them or other. u gotta see it good thing..cuz craig lost a band he was in n that gona change him somehow.its not til u lose something u realize how much ya miss it n love it n will do the best to get it back

Savingleah
The reason why people like Chiodos so much is because of Craig's unusual voice. It's what sets them apart. This is a great loss, and I personally think it's a really, really bad move. It's not about Craig being a 'front man', it's about his unique voice. I see this band failing without him.

Nimue
LilJPenick, I'm not going to choose sides here because Chiodos isn't a band I really listen to except on rare occasions, but You have no proof that it even has to do with Craig having a drug addiction. If it is drugs, then like FromLightComesTheDark said, a band is like family. Kicking Craig out of the band is not going to solve anything. More likely, he'll grow depressed and turn to those drugs even more because he got kicked out and his band mates did nothing to help him.. Besides that, the tweet Bell made was just wrong. If they're going to treat him like shit, then let the band be forgotten and Craig go on with his side projects.

LilJPenick
dnt get me wrong.. i always care of craig n want the best for him but im not gonna kiss his ass n brush is issue under the cover likes its nothing. i will always have a place in my heart for him..but im not gonna feel bad when he drops dead at 27.cuz he wouldnt listen to others round him who care for him.ive witness first hand owens on drugs.. hell ive even done drugs w him..call me a bad person i dont care. there more to this man then what everyone see n what he puts out what he wants u to see.. there more to this story n here hopin yall hear it one day. cuz its not what ya think

Xdawnkillsdreams
"ive witness first hand owens on drugs.. hell ive even done drugs w him...er, yeah... cause we're going to believe that. Hey everyone, i've done drugs with Morrison! Cobain was there too!

killingcalypso123
i heard that Mike Hranica is joining Chiodos and that they are changing their name to The Devil Wears Pasta.

CcS
WTF Chiods?!?! WTF!?!?!

gmonkey1655
As talented as Craig Owens is, and he is a very talented frontman, this doesn't surprise me. Other bands have talked about how self-centered and egotistical he is. Unfortunately I do think this is the end of Chiodos.

Broseph_Lieberman
ETF-Ronnie=gayness/totally different group...Chiodos-Craig=hmmm???

a_rodhowe
^ GINASFS. Anyway, thank GOD this finally happened. Regardless of drug problem stuff, what other band would have been as patient as these four have been with Craig doing all of these side projects? NO ONE.

LilJPenick
Certian people dont want to beleive their idol or role model is an asshole.. or has an ego or a drug addict cuz they arent perfect anymore in ur eyes. well craig said hes far from perfect..do dont think he is.. a_ridhowe ur riight too.. thats another reason why it happen.. these other four were patient in waitin.. do u kno the new chiodos album was basically done like 3 mths ago..all the music n shit.. just waitin on craig to record but NOO mr. owens wouldnt do it cuz he other people to exploit for more money..

Marionlianne
Based on the obvious fact that Craig is an incredibly busy man, a part of so many projects, people may already have had this situation a probability sitting in the back of their minds.. I did. But the reality of it actually happening? Never, until now. I had a moment of complete shock when I received the tweet on my way home. Chiodos is notably-known for its unique vocals supplied by Craig Owens. Kicking Craig out is absolutely ridiculous; more-so is how the rest of Chiodos won't break out from their vague statement on the matter. It isn't fair for fans who have been supporting these guys for so long to not know. I understand Craig's limited availability, but I think this was a wrong move.

acousticdreamsunderstars
well... good luck with that. i think the guys made a horrible decision BUT maybe things might turn out well.

alixo320
I'm pretty upset about this. Although I will still support the band, I wish they could elaborate on this. It pisses me off that they are being so closed towards us, the long term fans. As for Craig, hopefully he will do something similar to Anthony Green and just start a new band with some friends to "relinquish his demons" as he says. He will land on his feet no doubt, I just hope the band will do the same.

angelinaluvsanarchy
This is complete bullshit! Yeah I totally agree with everyone who said Craig was Chiodos cuz he was! Lol what a fucking mistake you can never replace Craig! Who else is going to continue to listen to the assholes that kicked him out? Not me no way they should have worked their problems out, gotten a therapist or something. The rest of the band may as well call it quits right now and save themselves the headache of finding a new singer because the band will not even be one millionth of what it was before! God Damn I've been listening to Chiodos since the 9th grade and now this happens, shit. I hope this is all a very elaborate joke.

IhateLilJPenick
LilJPenick, you're clearly a moron and a liar. Your rant about Craig's vocals make it clear you've no idea what you're talking about. As someone who has seen him live many times w/Chiodos and in my living room with solo projects I can definitively verify the quality of his vocals. And honestly is anyone perfect? You seem to think you are and everyone else is delirious. You should seriously consider a career other than music critic, where you show your obvious lack of skill.

constanzam5
first of all, why are you guys saying that craig got kicked out because of a drug problem?Yes,he did overdose a year ago but im pretty sure he is over that.And if you look at jason's twitter,you will see that he also does drugs. He even said "dear twitter please find me some weed" so i dont think they kicked him out for that.I love craig.Chiodos will never be the same without him.Im still hoping that this is all a dream and that i will wake up but sadly that wont happen.Craig i love you,i wish you the best.Chiodos you too,but i would change your name as chiodos is nothing without craig.And i think that it is a slap in the face that the band didn't state why.i have been a fan for years....

nicolearredondo
Well, I only liked Chiodos because of Craig Owens! And I feel special that I saw his last show at Warped Tour! That was the first and last time that I saw him preform with Chiodos! Chiodos definetly made a shitty desicion.

WhoSandieJENkins
If you were a real fan of this band you would support them not matter what! Of course this is horrible news, but do not give up on them! I love Craig to death, but he still has his solo & other side projects! He's not giving up on music completely! Craig is NOT Chiodos, give the other guys credit!

xcapncrunchx
you kids are brain dead, craig has 3 other projects he obviously didnt really care about chiodos anymore at this point in time, and if the only reason you listen to chiodos in the first place was b/c of craig you need to get yur head checked craig was and is nothing without those amazing musicians go cry or something thank god real chiodos fans wont have to see you idiots at their shows anymore, thank you chiodos this was a long time coming

LuckyFin31
When I saw Chiodos at warped tour as an impartial audience member it seemed to me like Mr. Owens was not a pleasant person nor did it seem like he was enjoying himself. I went to see their set to figure out if I wanted to get into the band like a lot of my friends. Craig Owens was very condescending to the crowd in his comments to them during the show. Owens gets a lot of credit as a dynamic frontman and I didnt see it on that day. The circumstances behind this news are related no doubt to Owens being let go by the band.

foblover6713
dammit! i luv the chiodos so much its gonna be different without craig but mabey something good will happen out of this. i rlly wish the chiodos didnt do this but i still cant wait for their new album i luv craig and hope the best for him and his projects!

ryanm1234
i cant belive this... its total bull... chiodos isn't even really chiodos without craig. probably the stupidist decision a band as great as chodos could possibly make...

LilJPenick
Aww im honor that such a lil teeny bopper would make a name saying i hate lil j penick.. listen if you wanna live in ur world where everything is perfect and ur idol is this amazing man who has no problem then fine. if you KNEW music, like i do.. youd realize that the rest of the band WAS the real masterminds.. craig wouldnt be shit.. w/o that band.. but since all u kiddies think hes god.. dont realize REAL music or who has talent.. he can sing pop thats it.. he solo shw is covers of his own bands.. wow.. what a waste of money..chiodos was his baby. he wasnt bored w that. n i have tons of proof but i talk..then i get others in trouble.

LilJPenick
if craig was bored w chiodos.. he would have quit, bottom line but chiodos was his baby that made most money..cuz all these side projects will never make enough or get as much press as chiodos did.. and you kno that. so if he was bored.. he would have quit

TeeEee
It's not the band's fault that Craig has been fucking up his life over the past couple years. The dude has a drug issue and on top of that he's battled depression in the past. The best thing for Craig is to get out of the scene and focus on himself. This should be his reality check. WAH WAH Craig Owens is gone. He's actually a piece of shit. Trust me, I know first hand. The dude is a waste case. Messaging his ladie fans online to get them to his hotel room only to force himself upon them. That's who Craig is. He's got a million issues he needs to deal with. He was holding that band back. Chiodos has made the right decision. One that should have been made a LONG time ago.

blazintreesblake
Okay...Even you have kept up with Chiodos over the years. They have been amazing, All's Well That Ends Well was possibly the greatest cd ever. Their next one though...the music was still amazing if you actually listen to it...but it just sounds like craig was trying to hard, and he just wanted more exposure so he can go around and be a player and fuck all kinds of little girls that think hes the hottest peice of ass on stage. You like music for the music. Craig is an amazing singer don't get me wrong...be he is to involved with other shit, The dudes probaly got annoyed with it cause he didnt make an effort anymore.

MECHA-UNIT-AMH1
This is probably due to his multiple projects and the rest of the band wants somone devoted to one band. However craig was the best thing to happen to music. This doesn't ruin my day, it ruins my life

lespaulsp490
this was prolly the dumbest move a band could have ever made. Chiodos was based around Craig. without him they would have gotten no where. he brought the energy and added the spark on stage to get the shit goin. nobodys got the voice and scream to compare to that. im an avid fan of Chiodos but i really dont agree with this move at all. hes gonna find another band and shit all over Chiodos. i mean look at Jonny Craig. he left Dance Gavin Dance and has a sick nasty band with Emarosa. DGD sucks now

blazintreesblake
Think of it this way. They still will make bad ass music..and could possibly make the new greatest fucking shit ever. But all you guys will be pissed because you follow a sappy frontman rather than the people behind the actually music that craig sings to that is so kick ass. i dont know what to do for the name. but either way it will be something new and im sure it will still be bad ass. Every Great Story Has A Crazy Fucking Twist. i respect them as individuals and im not going to turn on them because of this like some of you people who actually consider yourself fans. peace.

Court731
This saddens me. Craig's voice was how people recognized Chiodos. Craig was Chiodos. Given that he was not the "mastermind" and it was a group effort, they are missing a vital part of the Chiodos sound. His sound was unique...even though it was not perfection. He will truly be missed. And if they cared more about their bandmate and friend, they would stick with him and get him help. I think the comment about him being "inconvenient" is out of pure selfishness. You don't abandon someone at a time like this when he needs help and support more than anything. If they're going to take a break to gather themselves, they could help a brother out.

LilJPenick
craig isnt the greatest thing to happen to music. far from it.. he just show the world how to be goodlookin w a semi talented voice..ges a great actor..hello he said he wanted to be on broadway...so hes an actor.. hes not humble or sweet.. hes exploting everyone under the sun for fame n money and dont care how he takes down on his way to the top. you all were played by his charm its ok to admit it.i still believ hes overdose was fake cuz in mich ur in the hospital 48hrs after trying to kill urself or od. how was he online after 20? he got fucked up someone found him n to make peeps feel sorry n for press called it an overdose

catastrophe_queen
I read most of the comments on here and I agree with most of them. Normally Im against the whole hate mail thing but Chiodos really did screw themselves over. It takes a certain person to listen to Craig and actually appreciate his lyrics and his voice. Craigs voice made the Chiodos songs what they are, the high notes were a perfect match to his amazing lyrics. The tweet that Brad sent to Craig was disrespectful it pretty much said you think your better then us and have more bands that you think are more important. hello Brad your in 2 of those bands!!! so my only question is will these bands still be going on? Even after what Brad had said? idk but I hope Craig does cause he's very talented

beyta
okay, drugs+depression= problems.. and being in a band soon becomes a job when you acheive "fame" like they have.. And what happens when someone lets personal matters get in the way of their job? They get fired.. It becomes business.. and thats all this was, business.. i wish craig well and the rest of the band.. Things happen, we'll get over it.

roquettestar
chiodos is nothing with craig, its like the escape the fate situation. at least he has isles and glaciers and solo career, but its not like isles can go on tour anytime when the guys have their own bands. my first and last time i saw chiodos is exactly that. i just hope that they're friends still or get back in the future. chiodos was craig's baby. this just blows!!! i just don't want craig to do something bad, i so want to give him a hug right now.

tiffrulezd00d3
So fkn sad!!! This ruined my day, major fail by Chiodos. Craig is super awesome & it sucks that he got kicked out of the band!!! I'm so glad I saw em at his last show with the band at Warped on Aug. 23.

schmattpa
Craig Owens is a great singer and equally as great a front man. To say that he is Chiodos, isn't justified in any way. We all know that Chiodos makes a sound all their own and finding someone with the vocal caliber of Craig Owens will be tough, but not impossible. When Anthony Green left Saosin it was death to all fans. Cove Reber is a talented vocalist who changed Saosin in a great way, not the same but awesome. I personally am very upset about the decision to cast him off, but i am so excited to see what these very talented guys can bring to the table next. Chiodos is not one person; it is the chemistry of them all. He wasnt working out so lets turn the page and see what you have next...

schmattpa
P.S, the decision to keep the reason behind his leaving is in no way an insult. We have no clue what could have gone down and if it was something that could possibly tarnish the name of the band as a whole or Craig as a person, i feel its better left unsaid.. we all love Chiodos, so lets stick it out and see if they can bring what we really want and that is good hard weird awesome soft beautiful ugly harsh music. CHIODOS SHALL LIVE ON!!!

schmattpa
P.S.S. i dont think it was drugs at all... Craig is touring alone right now he is also in 3 other bands... i think the guys were tired of falling shirt in Craig's eyes and decided if they want to really finish some shit that need everyone on team Chiodos... Craig for the past two years or so has been doing multiple things, its hard to make time for the things that dont mean as much and i have read interviews with Craig where he has said he ultimately wants cinematic sunrise to be his thing... he just wasn't in it 100%. Just an opinion, none of us really know. I<3 Craig I <3 CHIODOS...

xmakedamnsurex07
i was shocked when i read the tweets and myapace blog about this issue. it is sad to hear this news, which is so common for many of today's bands. To say that Craig is Chiodos, is an understatement for many reasons. Chiodos is his baby, he started it in High School. He IS Chiodos, and I can't see it any other way. I hope Craig can overcome this obstacle and still be able to move forward with his career. I don't beleive that the other 4 members should be allowed to call themselves Chiodos. I believe that this band will have the fate of many, and slowely self destruct, and eventually break up. It's sad to think and say, but Chiodos, in my opinion, is over.

arlo
I never wanted to get involved with internet hate. But seriously the people that are saying he's a drug addict, an asshole, a womanizer..... get real. Craig is an amazing musician and a very passionate human being. I've been lucky enough to know him before he was the almighty front man and to me he hasn't changed as a caring, loving guy. He is a musician who is constantly being critiqued. He deals with struggles most of us have no clue of and most of us will probably never understand. I've seen him perform more times than i could ever keep track of and every time he performs with the same honesty and dedication to his craft. He is a real person and a wonderfully talented artist.

kaleyowens
when i saw this yesterday after school my heart sunk. they were perfection together. seeing as craig and brad and mat started this band its not the best idea to kick out a founding member. and brads tweet was completly un called for and quite childish. craig did have side projects but they were for nothing but making music and putting out an ep. craig has even stated there will be no more cinsun.brad is guilty of being in this project, jason is in king, derek was in another project, and mat and craig were part of I&G.craig has put chiodos first in everything he has done. its such a dissapointment that they would do this to him and the fans cuz they have jealousy issues. brad cant replace him

lexibrutality
im really not surprised that they kicked him out, but i love craig and i hope he gets his stuff together. hes hella talented, and im glad i saw them at warped tour. but to be honest, i only really listened to chiodos because of craig. so i probably wont listen to them anymore, we'll see though. i think chiodos made a mistake, they could of given him a break and let him work out his problems but they didnt, i dont see how they could ever try and replace him. chiodos wont ever be the same.

Joel_32
I agree with these guys! Obviously the guy didnt care about the band anymore cause he is too busy with his 4 other bands. They lost a good vocalist but made a good move. they need memeber dedicated to the band, and im sure they can find another good singer that will care.

MaggieIsCool
lol There are a lot of people upset about this.

iheartpopculture
I'm going to state the facts of how I came to the realization that Craig had been let go. I was at home yesterday, when my dad said he had possibly seen that Craig Owens had been kicked out of Chiodos. I was so disapointed. I said Chiodos is no longer my favourite band. I am now going to emerse myself in popcore. Particularly A Day To Remember. When Chiodos 2010 album comes out, I'm still contemplating getting it or not. That being said I should have seen this coming. In the Most Anticipated Albums '09 in Alt Press they said the release date for the new Chiodos album would be 2009. A recent Wikipedia check has the album release date as 2010. :/

DonewithFalling
This sucks, Craig brought such a unique sound to the world of music but so say that he was the best thing to happen to music? Thats a stretch. Honestly, if you're a real fan, it makes sense to be upset about the situation but I really don't think we deserve to know every little detail of why this is happening. Half of you feel like the band owes you something, like you've earned something. You've given years of loyalty and they've given you music that you love. That's how music works. Don't try and fool yourselves into thinging that you have a right to know because you're their "biggest fan". Please get over youself and make room for real fans who support the entire group.

iheartpopculture
Our heros are human. I've met Craig. (By the way he was very nice.) He posed for a photo both times I saw him in Toronto (Warped Tour and a Solo Show) I've gone all the way to Michigan to see him. He is talented, gifted and can hit the high notes rivaling Michael Jackson. (I know I'm going to get flamed for that comparison. ><) BUT he was human! Are you going to turn on him JUST BECAUSE HE HAS PROBLEMS? Then you never were true fans or friends. Same thing with M.J. He was doing amazing. Then some random sexual molestation charges are brought against him and the public and media call him a pedophile, Wako Jacko and the like. They go from calling him the King of Pop to a pedophile.

iheartpopculture
They abandoned him. Then he dies AND THEN the media acts like it's so sad. Same thing goes for this Chiodos-Craig debacle. Are they and YOU the fan going to abandon someone when you need them most? Then when they die, "Oh it's so sad? :( Addressing the drug addiction rumour: I believe it is sadly, true. I mean, listen to the song "Products of Poverty" off his new EP: "being strung out and alone" and "So yes it's true I'm snorting lines off of the same books that I read." Drug references.

iheartpopculture
Don't get me wrong. I love Craig. He is my hero. He and I have the same mental illness: Bipolar (Though I believe he's type one, I'm type two.) Drug use and a very high libido are possible characteristics of bipolar. They are also very creative. Bipolar is both a blessing and a curse. Half of bipolars commit suicide or overdose on drugs. This could be Craig's fate if he doesn't recieve the help he needs. Chiodos proved how heartless and how little they cared by kicking him out and leaving him to fend for himself. Maybe Craig refused their help. Maybe. Probably However Chiodos should have banded together and brought the help TO HIM. Our heros are human. They have flaws. And so do you.

iheartpopculture
I always tell people: when you meet your hero don't scream and act like a fangirl. Celebrities, artists and actors are regular people like you and me. They are human. Treat them as such. They just have a better job then you do. ;) In summary, Craig is a great musician and artist. Chiodos lost someone great, but it was nessecary. We will see how good they are when the new album comes out. Until then, keep supporting Craig. I know I will. Peace. xo

LilJPenick
well say goodbye to ur "hero" cuz if he keeps goin on whats hes doing hell drop dead b4 hes 30. n it wont be on my soul.. cuz i already tried to help him n i dont care n e more. ifhe wants to fuck up his life then he will.. and what makes u think that vic n mike from pierce the veil would let their friend keep doing drugs n not kick him out of isle? or even cinsun.. others will join the fight to get him help cuz most poeple love him cuz they are fools or see the real him n dont like him.. no in btw

tommy&lauren
God does answer prayers, I can't wait to hear the new Chidos. See ya, Craig, I hope you take the pinky hair flip with you and good luck with your voice lessons... maybe you can be a decent back up singer someday.

ashleydakota
I still cant believe this is actually real! THye have been my absoulute favorite band since chiodos bros. so this is bullshit.They are and never will be chiodos without craig. ha i hope they have fun trying to find someone to replace him and still keeping the fans they will have left.

whitey4002
craig ownes is a poor mans anthony green get over it they will replace him and go back to there alls well ways and sound like they use to before craig started messing it GOOD DECISION can't wait for the new album

whitey4002
and to iheartpopculture nice fact half of people with bipolar disorder commit suicide or od on drugs nice try maybe less than a quarter dumbass

whitey4002
you people are pathetic craig was't even that talented of a singer yeah his voice is unique but this is the best thing thats happened to chiodos get over it

devinmoody
Dear LilJPenick: If you were really friends with the band and know all this.. I don't think the remaining members of chiodos would appreciate you blabbing your mouth like this. They didn't want to release any info out of respect for their careers and Craigs. So what kind of friend are you saying all this. Pretty disrespectful to the band and Craig.Even if you are telling the truth.. Who are you to start trashing Craig on the internet? I am disappointed that Craig left but I'll support the band and Craig. Craig can't be replaced though, his tone and style are unlike any other. Goodluck to both Chiodos and Craig. The best Chiodos will always be a Craig Chiodos.

Ohinvertedworld92
RIP Michael Jackson, Patrick Swayze, Farrah Fawcett, Billy Mays, and Chiodos.

Joel_32
it'd be sweet if chiodos got Jerry Rousch....the former Sky Eats Airplane singer...if u ppl even know who that is

BigTuna
Call me crazy but id like to see them with Michael Jaman from A Skylit Drive, I mean similar vocal styles and everything

BigTuna
Jagman* my bad

Aheroremains_whilelegendsdie
I heard the Before Their Eyes Nick Moore is going to be the new frontman for Chiodos. If this is true it will never be the same.

LilJPenick
dear devinmoody: how am i? im just a person w free speech and no soul to care. and my "friendship" w craig or others memebers of chiodos doesnt matter.. its free speech..i can saw what i want.. deal w it.. its america..

devinmoody
ahah alright, but now you've lost all credibility about what your saying! So keep on talking friend. Anybody who really knew what was going on would honour Chiodos and keep their mouth shut about everything. So thanks for your input but we are going to wait to for the real information

livelavalakin
This is the most shit i've seen in awhile. They were my favorite band every since 5th grade now i feel like i lost a part of me. i went to all the concerts around where i live now i don't even think i wanna go see them. i met craig at warped tour in pittsburgh and that was great. now i don't know what to do this is like hell for me. They are going to be nothing without him he made them what they are. nobody could ever in this world replace him at frontman.

benjamin123
none of you know what your talking about. a band is not one guy. was the name of the band "craig owens and chiodos"? no. it was just chiodos. so "chiodos is craig" is complete bull. and as for you livelavalakin not one person can a make a band who they are. who is craig without the band? nobody. the band got craig to wear he is. and he helped the band get to were they are. Sure im dissappointed craig was kicked out. but you gotta do what you gotta do. chiodos is a great band and theyre gonna do just as well. and hey look at escape the fate. they lost theyre lead singer. and theyre still making great music and they werent as good as chiodos was when they lost him. so chiodos will be better!!!

devinmoody
yeah but ronnie isnt hard to replace aha he didnt have a unique tone to his voice. I know a million singers that sounded like Ronnie and many people can replace him. Craig cant be replaced

Bradolishous
I defiantly checked the calendar when I heard this to double check its not April 1st. That would be a horrible April Fools joke. But its even worse that its not April and its true. :[ Im not sure what Im gonna do...

marleydanelle
The only reason you guys have fans is because of Craig. Chiodos is shit now, nothing. Nobody will care anymore. Not a very smart move..

mattiev509
i read everything everyones saying and you all have good points but the only thing that i could say in my opinion is chiodos made a mistake letting craig go and the only thing i could say my thoughts are about chiodos letting him go is the line from baby, you wouldn't last a minute on the creek that says "this is probably the best, not to mention the worst idea that i have ever had"

ShhXhappens
If you guys never seen this coming, you're stupid. He's a part of 2 other bands, and he's doing a solo thing. Are they really suppose to sit around and wait for him to decide when he's ready to start a new record? The drug problem-- I'm sure they have tried helping him with it. Maybe he didn't accept the help. Don't start hating on them and calling them heartless because of it. I really don't believe that's the main reason they let him go. And everyone that's saying Craig IS Chiodos. WTF? He's not. Yes, he has a beautiful voice, but he wouldn't be able to do it without the rest of them. I don't know, maybe I'm just crazy, but I look beyond the lead vocals. Chiodos has a very unique sound even without Craig. And it's pathetic that a lot of the fans listen to Chiodos because they think Craig is just the most gorgeous fucking thing that's walked this fucking earth. (You know it's fucking true.) Very, very few times have I gone to a show and heard people speaking about the band as a whole. For the most part, it's just a bunch of retards talking about how they want to hump Craig.. I just think it's stupid that once a band drops their lead singer everyone starts hating. Chiodos will find what they're looking for, and be even more successful then they are now. So congrats to Chiodos on the let go

C_rY_s_Ta_L_2011
Wow. I simply can't believe this. First of all, I love Chiodos. Or did... Whatever. They are one of my favorite bands. They are so unique. Honestly, I kinda wondered about this a long time ago. I have to admit Craig does seem a little full of himself. You can tell he doesn't seem as close to the other guys in videos and what not. But he still seems like a very nice guy. He was nice when I met him and he always puts on a good show. Chiodos is not Chiodos without Craig. Simple as that. I'm not saying the remaining band members can't continue to make music, but they need to be more respectful and change the name. And give their fans some more information than just this...

C_rY_s_Ta_L_2011
By the way, what happened to Frost? I heard he left the band... Now I'm hearing he was kicked out too? What's up with that? He didn't seem to have problems with the guys. Yes, Craig had a lot of side projects. But I always felt his heart was with Chiodos. He always came back to it and went on tour. And this drug thing... No one can know for sure. I think we all know he tried to commit suicide. That doesn't neccesarily mean he has a drug addiction. I totally support Craig. He has such a unique voice. I'm sad to see him go. But I support the other guys as well. They just need to be a little more mature. I will give the new CD a shot... But it will never be the same. Change the band name!

Kristenismyname
Chiodos really isn't chiodos without Craig. He's like what made chiodos, chiodos. Whoever kicked him out, that was a really stupid move. This is like ETF all over again.

Kristenismyname
I love everyone in chiodos but Craig is or was the frontman that was out there that everyone saw and loved and then for him to just leave is like a major heart ache I think they should change the name bec chiodos is just a memory of Craig and sure I'll support chiodos still but I dint think I'll buy any albums or anything. I've got my Craig albums so I'm good.

Kristenismyname
I love everyone in chiodos but Craig is or was the frontman that was out there that everyone saw and loved and then for him to just leave is like a major heart ache I think they should change the name bec chiodos is just a memory of Craig and sure I'll support chiodos still but I dint think I'll buy any albums or anything. I've got my Craig albums so I'm good.

someday130
What bands fail to realize, is that people fall in love with a certain sound. When that sound is tampered with...the love is no longer there. That's why you always hear "I like old Green day better " or "Chiodos is not Chiodos". Craig Owens was Chiodos sound and by making that decision they have lost the love and respect of their fans. I would absolutely change your name. It would be shameful to call yourselves Chiodos ever again.